[oclug] #1 reason why I switched to NCF from Bell DSL

[Garth Boyd]

Thank you for this nugget of contractual law. My guess would be that
most consumers are unaware of this, a point which Bhell and Rogereds
take advantage of.

G

2009/12/23 Glenn Henshaw <thraxisp4 at mac.com>:
>
> On 2009-12-23, at 5:20 PM, Garth Boyd wrote:
>
>> Sadly this kind if thing is allowed common practice for Bhell and
>> Rogerds (spelling intentional). You are locked into a contract that
>> they can change at a whim.
>
>  They can change the unilaterally at a price. In law, you have 30 days to cancel the contract if they materially change it without your agreement. Just threaten to charge them with fraud. I did after 6 months with Sympatico and they waived the termination fees. (Their contract used to state that, in summary, you had to pay them, but they didn't have to provide service, which is not legal).
>
>  This is the same contract law as appears in the states. This is often used to switch between wireless carriers when a plan changes.
>
>   ... Glenn
>
>>
>> G
>>
>> 2009/12/23 Dave <Linux at carpe-machinam.ca>:
>>> I just received another of those unilaterally changed "Service Agreement –
>>> Bell Internet Dial-up service (the “Service Agreement”)" for my Occasional
>>> Use Dial-up account.
>>>
>>> Although I find this rather amusing in the context of a dial-up service,
>>> here's the #1 reason for my switch in DSL provider. (IIRC the wording was
>>> identical for their DSL service.) Bell says:
>>>
>>> ""
>>> Network / Security
>>> In addition to the general terms set out above, you are prohibited from
>>> using the Service for
>>> activities that include, but are not limited to:
>>> ---------
>>> · Running and/or hosting server applications including but not limited to
>>> HTTP, FTP, POP,
>>> SMTP, Proxy/SOCKS, and NNTP.
>>> ---------
>>> ""
>>> Although the Sympatico technical service person I talked with when
>>> terminating my DSL service assured me I was at no risk with hosting my
>>> vanity web-sites here using their DSL service, I was not comfortable with
>>> that Sword of Damocles ... devout coward that I am.
>>>
>>> YMMV;
>>> Dave
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>>
>>
>>
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>> - Garth
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> Email: thraxisp4 at mac.com
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- Garth