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>    1. OT: security statuses (James Lockie)
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>    3. Re: CVS (James Lockie)
>    4. Re: Philosophically related question (Andy Civil)
>    5. Re: OT: security statuses (Patrick Ouellette)
>    6. Re: OT: security statuses (Stephen Gregory)
>    7. Re: OT: security statuses (Jon Earle)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:50:15 -0400
> From: James Lockie <bjlockie at lockie.ca>
> Subject: [oclug] OT: security statuses
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> I'm posting my resume on itjobsrus.com and it asks me to choose the  
> type
> of security clearance I have.
>
> The government form that I filled in only has these choices:
> Reliability Status
> Level I (Confidential)
> Level II (Secret)
> Level III (Top Secret)
>
> The choices on itjobsrus.com has:
> Reliability Status
> Level I (Confidential)
> Enhanced Reliability
> NATO Confidential
> NATO Secret
> NATO Top Secret
> Level II (Secret)
> Level III (Top Secret)
>
>
> Does anyone know the differences?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:53:58 -0400
> From: James Lockie <bjlockie at lockie.ca>
> Subject: Re: [oclug] Philosophically related question
> To: General Membership Discussion List <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
> Message-ID: <472156C6.2050406 at lockie.ca>
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> Sandy MacDonell wrote:
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> I use Python, GTK, autohotkey download and Inno installation.
>> Works great.
>>
>> Sandy
>>
>>
>> On 10/24/07, Andy Civil <andycivil at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I know I'm going to be roasted for this, but I have a windoze  
>>> question.
>>> Why am I so foolish as to ask Linux people? Because you are  
>>> exactly the
>>> kind of people who would understand my question.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a free, preferably FOSS language which can create
>>> stand-alone GUI programs for the great unwashed to use. It's the
>>> standalone part that's hard; all the systems that I know (tcl/tk/ 
>>> wish,
>>> perl etc.) require the installation of an environment or  
>>> interpreter,
>>> something that I can't ask my granny to do, or post in a forum as a
>>> solution to something.
>>>
>>> Freebasic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebasic> is almost  
>>> perfect,
>>> and will do if necessary, but I think I'd have to hold my nose  
>>> before
>>> learning something with "basic" in its name. I was hoping for  
>>> something,
>>> umm..... a little more "C" like... :-)
>>>
>>> Thx.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andy
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> java
> I think my Dad uses: freepascal.org with the Delphi libraries.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:01:34 -0400
> From: James Lockie <bjlockie at lockie.ca>
> Subject: Re: [oclug] CVS
> To: General Membership Discussion List <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
> Message-ID: <4721588E.2070102 at lockie.ca>
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> Jon Earle wrote:
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> Is there a way to update a commit message in CVS?  The change to  
>> the code
>> file is correct, just the commit message is wrong.  Probably  
>> simple enough
>> (or not - didn't find much via google).
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Jon
>>
>>
> I tried to do that a couple of years ago but never found out how.
> Is it REALLY important?
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:05:12 -0400
> From: Andy Civil <andycivil at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [oclug] Philosophically related question
> To: General Membership Discussion List <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
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> James Lockie wrote:
>> java
> Doesn't that require a heavyweight download and install from  
> sun.com? I
> think we Linux users sometimes forget what an empty OS windoze is...
>
> -- 
> Andy
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:08:34 -0400
> From: Patrick Ouellette <ouellep at algonquincollege.com>
> Subject: Re: [oclug] OT: security statuses
> To: General Membership Discussion List <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
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> That's because there's different types of security clearances from
> different sources.
> Even just in Canada, there's 3 completely different clearance systems
> (RCMP, Govmt and CSIS), and you can't exchange/intermix them.
> I had to go through hell-in-a-handbasket just to get Level II in all
> 3 a decade ago, and it's only gotten worse - and wait times longer.
>
> The ones listed on itjobsrus.com look like US DoD clearance levels,
> from memory...
>
> At 10:50 PM 25/10/2007, James Lockie wrote:
>> I'm posting my resume on itjobsrus.com and it asks me to choose the
>> type of security clearance I have.
>>
>> The government form that I filled in only has these choices:
>> Reliability Status
>> Level I (Confidential)
>> Level II (Secret)
>> Level III (Top Secret)
>>
>> The choices on itjobsrus.com has:
>> Reliability Status
>> Level I (Confidential)
>> Enhanced Reliability
>> NATO Confidential
>> NATO Secret
>> NATO Top Secret
>> Level II (Secret)
>> Level III (Top Secret)
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know the differences?
>>
>> --
>> OCLUG general discussion list
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>
> Sincerely,
>
> Patrick Ouellette
> Algonquin College - School of Advanced Technology
> Program Coordinator - Computer Systems Technician/Techonology Program
> Prior Learning Assessment Coordinator - Computer Studies
> Professor - Computer Studies Department
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:58:48 -0400
> From: Stephen Gregory <oclug at kernelpanic.ca>
> Subject: Re: [oclug] OT: security statuses
> To: General Membership Discussion List <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
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> On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:50:15PM -0400, James Lockie wrote:
>> I'm posting my resume on itjobsrus.com and it asks me to choose  
>> the type
>> of security clearance I have.
>
> If you held any of the Confidential or above clearances you would know
> it. NATO issues their own clearences. Enhanced Reliability is no
> longer used in Canada. It is now just "Reliability." I believe this is
> a recent change. If you ever had a government job you likely held a
> Reliabilty Status. IIRC these expire fairly quickly, so unless you
> currently have a federal job or had one recently you likely hold no
> clearences.
>
> -- 
> sg
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:12:47 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Jon Earle" <je_oclug at kronos.honk.org>
> Subject: Re: [oclug] OT: security statuses
> To: "General Membership Discussion List" <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
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> James Lockie wrote:
>> I'm posting my resume on itjobsrus.com and it asks me to choose  
>> the type
>> of security clearance I have.
>>
>> The government form that I filled in only has these choices:
>> Reliability Status
>> Level I (Confidential)
>> Level II (Secret)
>> Level III (Top Secret)
>>
>> The choices on itjobsrus.com has:
>> Reliability Status
>> Level I (Confidential)
>> Enhanced Reliability
>> NATO Confidential
>> NATO Secret
>> NATO Top Secret
>> Level II (Secret)
>> Level III (Top Secret)
>
> The NATO clearances are higher than the normal clearances, so,  
> unless you
> know you have NATO clearance, you're more than likely just Secret  
> cleared via
> PWGSC or RCMP (while the forms are identical, the latter is  
> distinguished
> from the former by requiring fingerprints and references).  In  
> which case,
> just pick Level II (Secret) as that is the closest match.  Any  
> questions can
> be subsequently clarified in the interview, however, any recruiter  
> will know
> what it is you have, having seen MANY people in the same situation.
>
>
>
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