[oclug] Re: Feedback wanted

miden miden at travel-net.com
Sun Aug 20 06:16:27 EDT 2006


Bill S. has offered to set up and maintain a mailing list strictly for
OTs. Perhaps we should give it a shot? If he is right and people are
driven away from oclug by the OTs then oclug should see a benefit in the
form of a rise in participation. If he is wrong then there will be
either no change or a decline.

Consider it a real world field trial? And everybody learns to live with
the result.

Results should be apparent in six months or so.

Or the OT tag could be enforced for non-linux topics and people could learn to filter.
If there is an objection to OT then how about NL (non-linux)?

-m

On Sun, 2006-08-20 at 02:20 +0000, Greg wrote:
> Doesn't bode well for the future of Linux, does it?
> 
> Twenty anonymous freedom-lovers are so afraid of the unauthorized ideas
> of one obvious nutter that, instead of adding a simple entry to their
> mail-filters and banishing me from their lives (mostly) forever, they
> leave.  What are they going to do when Bill, the other Bill, leans on them?
> 
> You sure they weren't repelled by the knee-jerk intolerance and hominem
> attacks, or the endless squabbles about what is or not "off topic"?
> 
> Is this some more carefully crafted sarcasm?
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> In the United States, citizens are guaranteed "Freedom of Speech".
> 
> Anyone who wishes to demonstrate their opposition to, say, the
> occupation of Iraq need only show up ahead of time and enter the Free
> Speech Cages, thoughtfully provided by the Presidents entourage, out of
> sight of the President, his worshippers, and tv cameras.
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Strosberg wrote:
> > Greg wrote:
> > 
> >>Instead of asking my opinion,
> >>which you claim to value so little,
> >>you should have a long discussion with yourself,
> >>about why you fear my opinions so much,
> >>about why, if so few read my posts,
> >> you are so desperate to banish me.
> >>  
> > 
> > Ah but Greg, I do value your thoughts and opinions - just not on the
> > OCLUG list if they are not directly related to Linux.  My objections are
> > generally due to the damage to the OCLUG forum, not that you have
> > positions and the ability to argue them.
> > 
> > I don't fear your opinions in the slightest, and I have no interest in
> > banning any Linux-related topics you care to discuss on OCLUG.  I do
> > however want to minimize the anarchist rhetoric and off-topic stuff
> > which has made so many people I value leave the group.  There are at
> > least twenty people I respect and have learned a lot from that no longer
> > participate due to the kind of content I willingly _want_ to have on an
> > appropriate site.  Think about it. 
> > 
> > My issues are not what you have to say, it is where you say it.  I'm
> > more than interested in testing my perspective and debating issues with
> > you ... but in the right place.
> > 
> > I'm a big boy Greg and I'm also mature enough to admit that your
> > perspective is just as valid as mine  - we probably cancel each other
> > out politically, so we might as well at least try to appreciate each other.
> > 
> > What are your thoughts?
> > 
> > --
> > Bill
> > 
> 
> --
> 
> 



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