[oclug] [OT] - Non violence stuff.

[Greg]

I do not mean for an instant that you should give up.

Just stop promising people it will change if they drink the right cola,
use the right deoderant, and wave a magic spray-can.

Teach your grand-children to always wear shoes they can run in.



Fred Williams wrote:
> OK, Greg,
> 	Yes, I think you're right about the privileged classes using violence
> when they feel their grip on power slipping away, even if it is wrested
> from them in a non-violent fashion.  Of course that would presume that
> someone could convince the poor to use non-violent means when their
> world is collapsing around *them*.  Either way there is a lot of
> violence in the not too distant future.  Mother nature may also get into
> the act.
> 	Oh, and Jon wrote:
> 
> 
>>Well, there's that too (but I think you missed the point, intentially
>>or
>>otherwise).  Hopefully that (collapse) won't happen.
>>
>>
> 
> 	Yes, I got off track with your discussion about things not being rosey
> and "The Empire" making them look worse.  The worse things look the more
> power they can command to combat imaginary, racist foes,  well not
> imaginary totally, but contrived to some extent.
> 	I am certain the collapse will happen.  It has already begun.   It's
> like we're all in a car the has just driven off the road and over a very
> high cliff, (a la Wile E. Coyote), and people are still arguing over who
> gets to sit in the front seat.
> 
> 

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Why, Benedict, did you?