[oclug] yet another ISP thread

[Oren Mazor]

wonderful and possibly even insightful.

but not particularly relevant. my cell is locked in to another
provider, and I'm not interested in any tv or telephone services any
of them want to sell me, regardless of how many % I save off my
monthly [total] bill.

if you could please point me to the aforementioned $17 naked dsl
service, that would be just greeat and I would be very grateful. and
if they can take less than 4 weeks, then I'll be more than glad to pay
that $16 pure and unadulterated profit margin for high class hookers
and private jets.

I'm as interested in ISP politics as much as the next geek, but
internet access is a basic requirement for me to do my work and at
this point I dont care anymore and just want something that works.

On 8/1/06, Brad Barnett <lists at l8r.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:04:04 -0400
> "Oren Mazor" <oren.mazor at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > But I dont need nor want a phone line
>
> Clearly.  However, at $8 per month for a landline, one could reduce their
> cell phone plan a bit, perhaps, and use their landline instead when home.
>
> My general grouse is the cost of that naked line... $17 bucks is a joke,
> it does *not* take Bell $17 to maintain that line.  I might buy $1 per
> month as ongoing maintenance costs, but $17?  Pfft!
>
> Bell was recently ready to roll out fibre to every home... at
> least they were a year ago.  I've heard they dropped this idea, deeming it
> unfeasible for the near future.  What we really have here, is a bunch of
> union protected, technological neophytes living on their historical power
> base.  Hell, they don't even _see_ that power base eroding!
>
> Frankly, I don't really see Bell Canada's future as all that rosy.
>
>
> >
> > On 8/1/06, Brad Barnett <lists at l8r.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Considering the cost differential between naked DSL and a landline, it
> > > really isn't worth it.  I believe, that time I checked, the "naked"
> > > line was something on the order of $17 bucks.  What is it, $8 more for
> > > a phone number at that point?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:53:07 -0400
> > > "Oren Mazor" <oren.mazor at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I checked that out, but its not very clear on whether they offer
> > > > naked DSL or not. I dont have a landline.
> > > >
> > > > I did send them an email though.
> > > >
> > > > Oren
> > > >
> > > > On 8/1/06, Spencer Cheng <scheng at aotera.org> wrote:
> > > > > Oren,
> > > > >
> > > > > Try National Capital Freenet. http://www.ncf.ca
> > > > >
> > > > > They offer (relatively) cheap ADSL service.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Spencer
> > > > >
> > > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:46, Oren Mazor wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm honestly tired of chasing cybersurf. I recently moved and
> > > > > > decided to try and support the little guy, but we're now on the
> > > > > > fourth week and after being stood up repeatedly by them to show
> > > > > > up, I'm moving on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is anybody here using naked DSL? I tried both magma and bell but
> > > > > > I keep being thrown into hold purgatory and there is nothing
> > > > > > about it on either company's website.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd hate to have to resort to using rogers, but it seems that
> > > > > > I'm running out of alternatives and having the internet is a
> > > > > > basic necessity (I work on remote projects), I'm tired of going
> > > > > > to bridgehead every night to work. Coffee's great though :)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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