[oclug] Fwd: [edlug] Rather Depressing
sphex at sympatico.ca
Sat Mar 19 21:34:08 EST 2005
Rod Giffin wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 01:25 +0000, Greg wrote:
> Rod Giffin wrote:
>>>That's a common misconception. A patent for a method of skinning cats
>>>does not patent all methods for skinning cats, and there is more
>>>than one way to do it.
> Groklaw, and the SCO situation is not about patents.
Ms Jones and the Growlaw community have taken an interest in the EU
legislative struggles, and are moving around to look back at the US..
and perhaps at WTO, TRIPS, etc. There was a new story (Jones' word)
posted today about the UK Patent Office's workshops to clarify the
meaning of "technical contribution".
Last Octobre, the related Grocline project (it's linked in the upper
lefthand column, just after Search) shifted its focus from the genealogy
of Unix/Linux to "Patents and Prior Innovations".
It's about helping
> people understand the issues surrounding SCO's legal threats, and SCO
> claims copyright infringement and breach of contract, not patent
> infringement. There's a big difference.
>> That is what innovation is all about, coming up with new
>>True. However, we are discussing patents
> I was discussing patents.
Sorry, I thought the sentence about "innovation" was about "innovation".
I am well aware that people speaking about patents often throw in
sentences about innovation, without any connective material, hoping that
their listeners will assume there is a real, positive, connection, which
need not be demonstrated.
Given the history of posts here, in oclug, and in the non-corporate
software world generally, I did not think you would try that.
There is nothing wrong with coming up with a
> different solution to a problem. In fact, I can also take a patent, and
> improve on it, and then patent the improvement.
Even if the original
> patent holder wants to, he cannot without my permissioon, because the
> improvement is protected by a separate patent. For your reference, there
> is a nice guide to patents at the CIPO. Their site is here:
Yes, they are some of the people we dispute with.
For another, non-governmental, european, perspective :
Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure
> Note that it has sections on patents, trademarks, copyrights, industrial
> designs, and integrated circuit topographies. Each of these is a unique
> form of protection for one's creation based on the nature of the creation.
More information about the OCLUG