[oclug] April 6 meeting / part II
willy at debian.org
Mon Apr 12 09:41:54 EDT 2004
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 01:39:26AM -0400, Mike Roy wrote:
> Well, I really don’t want this to be the neverending thread but there are
> some comments that must be addressed.
Then why not continue them in the original thread? There's no need to
start a new thread. And I don't think it's offtopic; indeed it's probably
the most on-topic thread this month. By the way, you seem to be wrapping
lines at greater than 80 columns which is visually unaesthetic.
> Some have also suggested that it is the speaker’s responsibility to control
> the audience. This assumption is correct in a classroom but not at our
> meetings. I really don’t think a guest speaker should be expected to bring
> his (or her) own whip and chair to keep the audience in line.
No, it's true in any presentation environment. It's certainly the case
at any LUG I've been to; OCLUG is no better and no worse than any other
in this regard. Maybe OCLUG would like to strive to be better ;-)
> However, my comments were not directed a people asking questions but at a
> group of individuals (including at least two OCLUG board members) that
> carried on their own private discussion to the exclusion of everyone else in
> the room. Their behaviour was rude, disruptive and showed a total lack of
> respect for both the speaker and the rest of the audience.
My perception of the conversations was that they didn't start while the
speaker was talking; they started while people were asking questions.
There's an obvious conclusion to be drawn there.
"Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon
the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those
conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse
to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince
himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep
he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." -- Mark Twain
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