[oclug] Slightly OT: Need Help With Web Page

[Michael Lauzon]

Well, Rod sent me something as well, but I'll see what I can do with his
first.

Michael


On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:13:37 -0500, "Christopher Price"
<chris.price at webapps.ca> said:
> Michael Lauzon wrote:
> > 'The sample site I provided will be readable in
> > v3 browsers, but will not look as good as it does with v4+ browsers.'
> > 
> > What sample site?
> 
> The URL was in an earlier post to you, in this thread.  Here it is again:
> 
> http://www.we40.com/index_e.html
> 
> Thanks Dave for those stats.  They are really interesting.  Michael, 
> note that there are no v3 browsers in the report.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> > 
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:46:56 -0500, "Chris Price"
> > <chris.price at webapps.ca> said:
> > 
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> >>Michael Lauzon wrote:
> >>| Chris,
> >>|
> >>| How old, because there are still people out there using v3 and earlier
> >>| browsers...browsers that will *not* recognise CSS; I know there are
> >>sites
> >>| out there with a similiar layout like mine -- as Rod says -- but most
> >>of
> >>| them are using straight HTML and no CSS.
> >>
> >>I think the first point that needs to be made is that it is impossible
> >>to build a web site that will look identical on all browsers.  The older
> >>browsers will ignore what they do not understand (the CSS) and render
> >>what they do understand.  The sample site I provided will be readable in
> >>v3 browsers, but will not look as good as it does with v4+ browsers.
> >>
> >>~From the logs that I have seen lately, 90% of site hits are coming from
> >>IE 5.0 and above.  The remaining 10% are made up of predominantly
> >>netscape 6/mozilla.  The people who are still using v3 browsers number
> >>in the 1-2% range, and are probably quite used to seeing less than
> >>perfect sites.
> >>
> >>You just need to make sure that the site is readable using older
> >>browsers.  You do not need to make it look as good as it would on a new
> >>browser.
> >>
> >>Hope this helps.
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Chris
> >>
> >>|
> >>| On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:36:16 -0500, "Christopher Price"
> >>| <chris.price at webapps.ca> said:
> >>|
> >>|>Michael Lauzon wrote:
> >>|>
> >>|>>Rod,
> >>|>>
> >>|>>Well, if that is the case...then I guess the site will be using frames
> >>--
> >>|>>unless I can find someone who can design the HTML better -- as I am
> >>|>>unwilling to go the CSS route because onlyn v4+ browsers understand
> >>CSS.
> >>|>>
> >>|>>Michael
> >>|>
> >>|>Hi Michael,
> >>|>
> >>|>Do not go to frames.  In general they really detract from the
> >>|>maintainability of a Web site.  I think you just need to re-work the
> >>|>HTML.  Here is an example of a site that uses CSS, but still works fine
> >>|>on older browsers:
> >>|>
> >>|>http://www.we40.com/about/index_e.html
> >>|>
> >>|>It has a similar navigation to yours and can be used as a solid example
> >>|>to base your Web site on.  If you have any specific questions on how it
> >>|>was put together please feel free to contact me off list.
> >>|>
> >>|>Cheers,
> >>|>
> >>|>Chris
> >>|>
> >>|>
> >>|>>
> >>|>>
> >>|>>On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:48:11 -0500 (EST), "Rod Giffin"
> >>|>><rod at giffinscientific.com> said:
> >>|>>
> >>|>>
> >>|>>>Michael Lauzon said:
> >>|>>>
> >>|>>>
> >>|>>>>Rod,
> >>|>>>>
> >>|>>>>I know about the menu streching, if you go to any other page it's
> >>|>>>>fine...it's the index page that needs to be fixed.  I think the
> >>index
> >>|>>>>page needs to be redesigned...we may end up using frames, oh well.
> >>|>>>
> >>|>>>The other pages don't actually work.  They only appear to work
> >>because
> >>|>>>they don't stretch the left hand column yet because there isn't
> >>enough
> >>|>>>content on the right hand side.
> >>|>>>
> >>|>>>Rod.
> >>|>>>
> >>|>>>
> >>|>>>--
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> >>|>>
> >>|>>
> >>|>
> >>|>--
> >>|>Christopher Price
> >>|>Web Applications Consultant
> >>|>Tel: (613) 255-0780
> >>|>http://www.webapps.ca
> >>|
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