[oclug] Wireless

MaxxTek maxxtek at sympatico.ca
Tue Nov 18 00:17:54 EST 2003 

I wanted to say that I purchased a USR322410 wireless card and left it in my
PCMCIA slot and lo and behold Mandrake 9.2 found it and the installation was
seamless.  It was not detected in RedHat  so it was a blessing for this
newbie.  Even though it is only 11Mbps it meets my needs.  I also have 3
access point which come with native Linux drivers from the USR Site.    (See
the link http://www.usr.com/support/product-template.asp?prod=2450
They are new in the box but I do not believe there is any support at the
present time since they are discontinued products.  All you would have to do
to make them functional is update the firmware .

Cheers,
Maxx
Quod Me Nutruit Me Destruit


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Today's Topics:

   1. CFL: Sun Java problems (Jeff 'Gum-y' East)
   2. Re: CFL: Sun Java problems (Rod Giffin)
   3. wireless (Alex @ Avantel)
   4. Re: Check out this log (Jon Earle)
   5. Re: wireless (Brian Johnson)
   6. Re: Check out this log (Brad Barnett)
   7. Re: Check out this log (Rod Giffin)
   8. Re: Re: Redhat Alternatives (Gilles J. Seguin)
   9. (no subject) (Bob Baillargeon, MediaLab Plus)
  10. Mandrake (MediaLab Plus)
  11. Mandrake (Bob Baillargeon, MediaLab Plus)
  12. Re: Mandrake (Chris Herrnberger)
  13. Re: Mandrake ()
  14. Re: Mandrake (Rod Giffin)
  15. ssh portforwarding article (Michael P. Soulier)
  16. Re: Check out this log (Jon Earle)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:41:23 -0500
From: Jeff 'Gum-y' East <an972 at freenet.carleton.ca>
To: Ottawa Linux User's Group <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
Subject: [oclug] CFL: Sun Java problems
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

	Funny.  Yesterday on the CFL website they had a page saying how Sun
was going to provide a live, interactive website (Java n stuff) during the
Grey Cup.  And today I see some lame message about technical difficulties,
and absolutely NO mention of Sun anywhere on the website that I can see.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:11:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [oclug] CFL: Sun Java problems
From: "Rod Giffin" <rod at giffinscientific.com>
To: <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

Jeff Gum-y East said:
> 	Funny.  Yesterday on the CFL website they had a page saying how Sun
> was going to provide a live, interactive website (Java n stuff) during
> the Grey Cup.  And today I see some lame message about technical
> difficulties, and absolutely NO mention of Sun anywhere on the website
> that I can see.

The interactive website is http://www.cfl.ca, and it's working fine.  The
service you're talking about (with the lame message) will only work during
a game.  Otherwise, it wouldn't be live play by play.

Rod.



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Message: 3
From: "Alex @ Avantel" <ahv at avantel.ca>
Organization: Avantel Systems
To: "Ottawa Linux User's Group" <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:06:57 -0500
Subject: [oclug] wireless
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

Paul Godin's article on networking in Monitor revived my interest in sett=
ing=20
up wireless so I'm looking for info on what equipment to buy that works w=
ith=20
linux (RH7.x) laptops (PCMCIA).  From reading the various HOWTOs it looks=
=20
like D-link is a reasonable bet although my experience with their gear ha=
s=20
never been very good.  Are there any other products that anyone has good=20
experience with and where are they locally available in Ottawa? =20

TIA

Alex at Avantel
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:07:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Earle <je_oclug at kronos.honk.org>
To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca
Subject: Re: [oclug] Check out this log
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Brad Barnett wrote:

> > I don't see this traffic on machines connected to other networks so I'm
> > wondering if there's anything the ISP should be doing to cull this
> > traffic?  Is there anything else I can do?
>
> No, except for disconnecting any client of theirs with said worm / virus,
> and no. ;)

So, why then do I not see this traffic on other hosts?  If it were truly a
big ol' virus/worm, its targets would be ISP-independent, yes?  And
larger, older and more established ISPs should see a larger attack coming
their way, yes?  So, either other ISPs have some kind of filter in place,
or this attack is only directed at me/my ISP which I find hard to believe.

-- 
Jon Earle

SAVE FARSCAPE http://www.savefarscape.com/

Vegetarian - an old Indian word meaning 'lousy hunter'.

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Message: 5
From: "Brian Johnson" <bjohnson at johnson-engineering.ca>
To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca
Subject: Re: [oclug] wireless
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:39:37 +0000
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

I like my Belkin pcard .. available from RadioShack

I also know someone who picked up two refurbed SMC pcards for $70 from
factorydirect.ca



Alex @ Avantel (ahv at avantel.ca) wrote:
>
>Paul Godin's article on networking in Monitor revived my interest in
setting
>up wireless so I'm looking for info on what equipment to buy that works
with
>linux (RH7.x) laptops (PCMCIA).  From reading the various HOWTOs it looks
>like D-link is a reasonable bet although my experience with their gear has
>never been very good.  Are there any other products that anyone has good
>experience with and where are they locally available in Ottawa?
>
>TIA
>
>Alex at Avantel
>============
>


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:47:44 -0500
From: Brad Barnett <lists at L8R.net>
To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca
Subject: Re: [oclug] Check out this log
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:07:16 -0500 (EST)
Jon Earle <je_oclug at kronos.honk.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Brad Barnett wrote:
> 
> > > I don't see this traffic on machines connected to other networks so
> > > I'm wondering if there's anything the ISP should be doing to cull
> > > this traffic?  Is there anything else I can do?
> >
> > No, except for disconnecting any client of theirs with said worm /
> > virus, and no. ;)
> 
> So, why then do I not see this traffic on other hosts?  If it were truly
> a big ol' virus/worm, its targets would be ISP-independent, yes?  And

Keep in mind that this particular worm is winding down.  Also keep in mind
that it tends to trigger every so often.  I often _still_ get hits from
last year's popular worm (which one, eh? ;) every Sunday morning.  Timing
may be a factor in your failure to notice this on other ISPs.

> larger, older and more established ISPs should see a larger attack
> coming their way, yes?  So, either other ISPs have some kind of filter
> in place, or this attack is only directed at me/my ISP which I find hard
> to believe.
> 

Some ISPs do indeed block such things, some do not.  Some have very
proactive blocking after such attacks start.

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:49:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [oclug] Check out this log
From: "Rod Giffin" <rod at giffinscientific.com>
To: <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

Jon Earle said:
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Brad Barnett wrote:
>
>> > I don't see this traffic on machines connected to other networks so
>> I'm wondering if there's anything the ISP should be doing to cull
>> this traffic?  Is there anything else I can do?
>>
>> No, except for disconnecting any client of theirs with said worm /
>> virus, and no. ;)
>
> So, why then do I not see this traffic on other hosts?  If it were truly
> a big ol' virus/worm, its targets would be ISP-independent, yes?  And
> larger, older and more established ISPs should see a larger attack
> coming their way, yes?  So, either other ISPs have some kind of filter
> in place, or this attack is only directed at me/my ISP which I find hard
> to believe.

If your ISP hasn't filtered for traffic from W32/Welchia or W32/Nachi (or
W32/Blast for that matter) this could be the reason you're experiencing
this.  Judging from your log files, the traffic pattern seems to be
consistent with that type of traffic.  It does not appear to be an attack,
but a probe.

Rod.




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:21:40 -0500
From: "Gilles J. Seguin" <segg at infonet.ca>
To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca
Subject: Re: [oclug] Re: Redhat Alternatives
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

Brian Barber wrote:
> 
> I agree with Brad
> (and no, we don't have to punch each other in the head to see if
> agreeing feels better or worse than that.) :) 

> I use a workstation running Debain stable at work for managing
> the RedHat-Oracle server and other stuff, and Debian updates are
> routinely more quickly published than Red Hat.

Are you comparing the time difference of the update for the
workstation runnning debian with the update for the
RedHat-Oracle server ?
I do hope that a testing phase exist for the redhat server.
With added comments on the update:
- is it critical
- is it invasive(does enough testing has been done).
  solving one problem and creating two others.

> As an added bonus, I have been able to apply the Debian updates
> without ever taking the box down.
> I have had to reboot the Red Hat server after certain updates.

May be the sensible thing to do,
- does the kernel has the PIE option,
- does glibc is involve,
- is prelink libraries used.

What version of the RedHat distribution, are you talking about.

> BB
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Barnett <bb at L8R.net>
> To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca
> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:50:47 -0500
> Subject: Re: [oclug] Re: Redhat Alternatives
> 
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:23:36 -0500
> "Patrick O'Halloran" <pat_ohalloran at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:50:48 -0500, Chris Herrnberger wrote:
> > > 2b. Security updates are available and again automatically udpated
> > > should this be required.
> > I'd like to thank everyone so far for your input on a Redhat
> > alternative.  So far it seems Debian is the distro of choice (I thought
> > at least someone might suggest Gentoo.....).

distro of choice
- for what kind of user.
- for doing what
- what are you expecting ?

I can understand/feel why some users may like it.
Motivation is "they like controlling the machine".

> > Anywhoo, if I do decide on Debian,
> > what are response times typically like for obtaining updated
> > packages when vulnerabilities are announced? (ie. ssh, sendmail, and
> > other critical packages.....)
> >
> > Thanks again for your input!
> >
> 
> Debian is very quick about this for its stable distro.

> Most distros are, these days.

Have you experience update to critical packages that were not fast
enough, which ones.

> --

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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:00:52 -0500
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From: "MediaLab Plus" <medialab at ott.igs.net>
To: <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:02:15 -0500
Subject: [oclug] Mandrake
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Are there any Canadian distributors of boxed versions of Mandrake? How do I
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:51:18 -0500
Subject: [oclug] Mandrake
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Message: 12
From: Chris Herrnberger <chris123 at magma.ca>
To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca
Subject: Re: [oclug] Mandrake
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:07:41 -0500
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

On Monday 17 November 2003 12:02, MediaLab Plus wrote:
> Are there any Canadian distributors of boxed versions of Mandrake? How do
I
> eliminate brokerage fees if ordering from the USA?
>
> Bob

See 
http://camelot.ca/en/search.html?c_language=English&words=Linux&submit=Softw
are

and possibly FutureShop

/ch


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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:07:51 -0500
From: [thomas gohard] <gohardt at rogers.com>
To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca
Subject: Re: [oclug] Mandrake
Organization: self
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

I haven't checked in a while but I used to see them at some
Futureshops and Staples and I believe also at the computer books
store on O'Connor. But if I remember correctly they always
were a version or two behind.

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:51:18 -0500
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> Are there any Canadian distributors of boxed versions of Mandrake? How do
I
> eliminate brokerage fees if ordering from the USA?
> 
> Bob
> 
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:50:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [oclug] Mandrake
From: "Rod Giffin" <rod at giffinscientific.com>
To: <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

MediaLab Plus said:
> Are there any Canadian distributors of boxed versions of Mandrake? How
> do I eliminate brokerage fees if ordering from the USA?

Among the others already mentioned, CompuSmart, CompuCenter, and you can
order directly from MandrakeStore.  They had a distribution contractor in
Montreal as late as last October(02) who might still represent them.

Rod.



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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:12:20 -0500
From: "Michael P. Soulier" <msoulier at digitaltorque.ca>
To: Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group <oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca>
Subject: [oclug] ssh portforwarding article
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    Anyone new to ssh portforwarding may way to look at this article.=20

    http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/excerpt/ssh_11/index3.html

    SSH pfing is so useful to me that I don't know where to begin
describing it. I highly recommend looking into it if you have not
already.

    Mike

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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:21:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Earle <je_oclug at kronos.honk.org>
To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca
Subject: Re: [oclug] Check out this log
Reply-To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Rod Giffin wrote:

> Jon Earle said:
> > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Brad Barnett wrote:
> >
> >> > I don't see this traffic on machines connected to other networks so
> >> I'm wondering if there's anything the ISP should be doing to cull
> >> this traffic?  Is there anything else I can do?
> >>
> >> No, except for disconnecting any client of theirs with said worm /
> >> virus, and no. ;)
> >
> > So, why then do I not see this traffic on other hosts?  If it were truly
> > a big ol' virus/worm, its targets would be ISP-independent, yes?  And
> > larger, older and more established ISPs should see a larger attack
> > coming their way, yes?  So, either other ISPs have some kind of filter
> > in place, or this attack is only directed at me/my ISP which I find hard
> > to believe.
>
> If your ISP hasn't filtered for traffic from W32/Welchia or W32/Nachi (or
> W32/Blast for that matter) this could be the reason you're experiencing
> this.  Judging from your log files, the traffic pattern seems to be
> consistent with that type of traffic.  It does not appear to be an attack,
> but a probe.

So, is it just a matter of shutting down incoming ping requests?

-- 
Jon Earle

SAVE FARSCAPE http://www.savefarscape.com/

Vegetarian - an old Indian word meaning 'lousy hunter'.


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