[oclug] [OT] Port 4662

[gabriel]

On January 23, 2003 02:07 pm, Brad Barnett wrote:
> However, what I am concerned about is non-compliance, and non-acceptance.
> Without the US signing, we shouldn't either.  We need to be on the same
> playing field with them.  They can't have that advantage.  At the same
> time, we should do everything in their power to get them to sign, so we
> can too.
>
> As well, we can't allow entire industries (like the auto industry) to be
> excluded just so that a particular party can get re-elected.
>
> Either of these two things undermine the accord, and make it virtually
> pointless.

we are not the american's bitch.  we make up our own minds.  if they won't 
join, then it's up to the rest of the world to force them as it's not just 
their atmosphere that's going to pot.

something that a lot of people seem to be missing here is the huge potential 
advantage Canada could have as being one of the most technologically advanced 
countries to be on board with Kyoto.  there's a serious possibility of 
building new industries that will help other countries meet their targets.  
imagine...  Canada would actually "manufacture and export" products rather 
than rely on primary industry trade with the americans.  we can't just look 
accross the border and say "well if they're not in we can't be, 'cause they 
own us".  --it's that sort of cracked-out dependent thinking that is killing 
our economy.

now, if you were arguing that Canadians generally don't fare well in building 
world-class corporations, and therefore are doomed to be the america's bitch 
forever...  sadly, i might be on board with you there.  ;-)

-- 
the surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem 
those who think alike than those who think differently.
	- friedrich nietzsche