[oclug]Xandros: [mingp@xandros.com: Re: iso]
Shad Young
shad.young at sympatico.ca
Wed Oct 23 21:50:22 EDT 2002
Heheh, yah know, I think I'm beginning to sound like the n(l)oel<?> green
(dude from CFRA) of OCLUG :)
Shad
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 09:15 pm, Rod Giffin wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 October 2002 18:03, Shad Young wrote:
> > I disagree. Xandros is hitting the desktop market. We are not talking
> > server app.. were talking the desktop. In the workplace. I am responding
> > to what they have said in their press release, their website and their
> > interview. :)
>
> You've missed the point. The server app market is not the question. For
> instance, Oracle already runs on Linux so any Oracle server, even clusters,
> could be replaced by equivallent Linux servers. J2EE also is an effective,
> and way cheaper solution to the web services issue than the .NET solution.
> The problem on the desktop isn't even office productivity suites - OOo
> offers one of several viable solutions to that question. The problem is
> legacy client/server applications - in house and COTS software that
> enterprise depends on, but doesn't run on Linux simply because nobody ever
> thought of deploying it on Linux.
>
> Let me explain to you some of the economics. This is a real example by the
> way. An average international enterprise has 6,000 employees with
> computers, and in house or custom off the shelf software worth 4,500/head
> per year (amortize over 5 years... it adds up fast.) Operating System and
> office productivity software only adds up to say 275/year (the total amount
> is again amortized over 5 years.)
>
> The biggest problem is not the couple of hundred dollars they save in their
> OS and office productivity software by switching to Linux, but the $112
> million investment that goes down the drain if the customized and in house
> software does not work - because it all has to be re-built. That is why it
> is critical to have a bridge between legacy applications and Linux. It
> avoids having to replace all of your legacy apps today, and allows you to
> do any new development in a native environment, while still maintaining
> your old apps.
>
> That is the main reason that Windows became so popular in the first place.
> Microsoft delivered toolkits that allowed Windows to run mainframe
> applications in terminals way back right out of the gate. This enabled
> large organizations to deploy windows, and still run their old VT-100
> applications without re-developing them. It also gave them a cheaper
> migration path to distributed computing than their competitors offered.
>
> What Xandros is attempting to do is to make the OS running in their target
> market environment totally irrelevant by making a bridge between the old
> environment and Linux. That would almost compeltely neutralize Microsoft's
> momentum and stranglehold on that market segment's desktop environment.
>
> Rod.
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