[oclug] i need some feed back

[Steph Donovan]

On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:16:26PM +0000, Tom Birkoph wrote:
> sun, solaris,unix admin jobs~please read- needfeed
> My MCSE classes have begun this week ( monday ) i just finished my a+ and 


Nowadays, whenever I see the acronym MCSE, I always think "Minesweeper
Consultant and Solitaire Expert."  Heard it too many times I guess.


> networking class,... and i'm having seconds thoughts about the MCSE program 
> in the 2000 track ( no NT4 and XP at all )... i have looked into taking 
> solaris and linux/unix classes (maybe even sun ) instead of my Mcse, but my 
> prof was raving at me that a Mcse cert would do me more good,... i also 


Well, what did you expect him to say?  "No please, take that other class
so that I'll lose my job and won't get paid."  :)

> signed up for the 4 week hacker/serurity classes... - *** i have concidered 
> the fact that my MCSE will be worth less in the next 10 years cause 
> mircosoft will release some new windows version and i'll have to learn it 
> all over again and get certs 4 it.

I hate to tell you this, but, the way the computing trends are going, it 
seems to me that Linux/Unix will be gaining a great deal of market share, 
and Microsoft will lose the "OS Wars."  I wouldn't say your MCSE is almost 
worthless now, but I think it will be, and a lot sooner than you expect.  


This is how the conversation usually goes at my company:


PoorSchmuk: Hello? Is this HR?  I'm looking for a job. I have an MCSE...

Me:  Do you have any experience with Linux or Unix?

PoorSchmuk: No.  But I have an MCSE... 

Me:  I'm sorry, we're looking for people with Linux or Unix Experience.

PoorSchmuk: Oh, ok, bye.

:)


> 
> ~ When i joined this IT school my goal was to come out a unix admin or a 
> admin or some sort ( iknow iknow i'll need more exp but thats my goal ) "I 
> DO NOT" i repeat "I DO NOT" want to work at a inbound call Center where 
> admins call you asking you to fix their win2k server boxs cause they don't 
> know how... i'd rather run around a office building helping joe newbie print 
> his doc's or reformat his computer cause he deleted something....etc

Then don't waste your money on a MCSE.  Take some Unix courses instead, or
something, anything else.  :)

> 
> ~ i know this is a Unix forum so i'll past the same topic on the mircsoft 
> forum to get both OS feedbacks ( mods redirect it how ever you want)
> 
> ~ i was just wondering what do you guys think of my current situation,... 
> i'm currently 19 and my only computer exp is fixing computers at a local 
> computer store ( 6 month co-op from high school )i have a 4 computer network 
> setup, and i'm running a linux server, which i greatly enjoy working, and a 
> win2k server box.--- i live in ottawa ( near toronto )
> 
> 


Steph

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Steph Donovan, Ottawa Linux Symposium, http://www.linuxsymposium.org
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