[oclug] University of Ottawa LinuxFest2002

[Arno Schulz]

> I'm
> convinced that it should be a requirement of all 
> professors to go to teacher's
> college before they are permitted to teach. 

Mike I'm not defending anyone here,

But there are two problems with today’s post-secondary educational system:

- On one side we (the students) pay and often don't get the quality in education that we should (here in Comp Sci Ottawa U, students ask the CSSA to do at least one petition per semester, some teachers don't give a damn **** about us and leave answers on finals or let rampant cheating happen during them (one case was reported were a student was cheating in front of the teacher, the teacher approached him and said "it's all a game, it's all a game" and he did nothing else), and there are other horror stories (photocopied assignments for example)).
- On the other side you have the profs, they may be the worst prof you had. But they are not hired to teach they are hired to do research and forced to give an amount x of courses (of course there are always those who like teaching, or enjoy teaching a particular course, but then you have the administration that let the good profs leave to go to other universities (sometimes I have the impression it's a university policy: if a prof is successful, popular and a good teacher make sure he leaves this university)).

my 2 cents.
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Arno Schulz
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Michael P. Soulier" <michael.soulier at rogers.com>
To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:55:35 -0500 
Subject: Re: [oclug] University of Ottawa LinuxFest2002

On 01/03/02 rod at giffinscientific.com did speaketh:

> > I grew up in academia, and I trained to be a teacher.My father was a
> > university professor and I hold a Ph.D. 

    "I once drew a picture of a rabbit that earned me three gold stars."
        -- Patch Adams

    Why is it that education is so often used to justify why one person must
be correct and the other must be wrong? I argued with my profs all the time,
and I have to say, many of them (of the doctoral class) were the most clueless
losers I've ever met. Burned out, completely out of touch with what year it
was, and spending so much time looking down their noses at students that they
forgot to teach them a damn thing. 
    Occasionally we'd get a good one that could teach, but it was rare. 

    Mike

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"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix


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