[oclug] tuesday afternoon rant about the FBI and an isp

[Hazen Valliant-Saunders]

Oddly enough,
	I've had the grace to see the servers at interpol, I wonder if they're
still there.  In the BIG HUMP of dirt in the middle of the RCMP headquarters
just off of the corner of coventry & The vanier pky.  Not a horribly secure
place at all but runs the world's database of BAD GUYS & GIRLS.
	Quite a few IT geeks I would say, very nice but know nothing of hacking,
The only reason I have any idea is my family used to have dinner with the
commissionarre of the RCMP, My father was an editor for one of the internal
magazennes, and from what I saw of the publications they were quite
mis-informed as to "white collar computer crimes"  My father retired in the
early 90's so mabye they've come a way since then, but I'm willing to bet
the Interpol servers are still in the same room.  Probably newer computers
but man i bet they do have a nice fiber connection.  OC-1 to OC-3 dedicated
to the room last I heard, the rest of the place has a diffrent layout.
	Intresting challenge, very very secure though if you could hack it you
could get friends abroad thrown in jail!  Pretty silly huh, Your MUG, File,
SIN or reasonable faximilie, any crimes you've ever committed (Including
those Pre 18 years of age ones) are or at least used to be kept there.  That
one place is one if not the head data centre for all INTERPOL, which means
the French, British, and Japan, basicly where ever Interpol has a
governmental affiliation (So any NATO country) will refer to that database
for information on criminals.

	Thus the great consern with "hackers" and "hacking" even though they are
mis-informed as to the subtle diffrences in hacking and script-kiddes, to a
lot of the people involved (RCMP, CESIS) it all looks the same.  Also
remember a good hacker usually has an income in excess of 6 figures
(development usually or security companies) and the Canadian government can
compete with IT, Well its what 75,000 people in OC now?

	Well just to let you all know,
	Hazen Valliant-Saunders

-----Original Message-----
From: oclug-admin at lists.oclug.on.ca
[mailto:oclug-admin at lists.oclug.on.ca]On Behalf Of Francis Pinteric
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:51 AM
To: oclug at lists.oclug.on.ca
Subject: Re: [oclug] tuesday afternoon rant about the FBI and an isp



--- Brad Barnett <bbarnett at l8r.net> wrote:
> Quoting Vic Gedris <vic at worldwidepunk.com>:
>
> > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, burns wrote:
> >
> > > Here's an idea... I can probably cajole a police high tech
> crime
> > person to
> > > give a talk on this (port scanning, legalities, hacking
> > technicalities,
> > > etc.) at one of our OCLUG meetings if there is sufficient
> interest.
> > > Anyone interested?
> >
> > That would be very very interesting.  Is this person familiar
> with Linux
> > and open source too?  Would be interesting to have it from that
> > perspective as opposed to just in "general".

Which branch of the law enforcment are you talking about? The RCMP
asked me to do a similar talk for them about a year and a half ago.
Maybe they've advanced a little since then.

>>>--fja->



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