[oclug] The Sinnister MS Connection Was : Rogers domain
je_linux at kronos.honk.org
Sun Feb 4 00:20:32 EST 2001
At 09:12 PM 02/03/01, you wrote:
> >>>>> "Jon" == Jon Earle <jearle at kronos.honk.org> writes:
> >> Per megawatt, electricity-generating plants produce much less
> >> pollution than internal combustion engines.
> Jon> Except that, in the case of nukes, which most new plants
> Jon> probably would be, what do you do with the waste for the next
> Jon> few millenia? We already have trouble dealing with the
> Jon> little amount of waste we produce _today_.
>Actually, for a nuke, disposal is rather simple (it's a matter of
>engineering); the politics involved with disposal are not. All the
>waste produced by Ontario's plants are stored on site right now. So,
>we're really not talking about alot of stuff to get rid of. And if
>you want to get into reprocessing (a.k.a., recycling the old fuel,
>most of the waste goes away too.
The trouble with nuke waste is the longevity of it. Sure, we can store a
little of it on the reactor site for now, but what about when the reactor
is closed for good, and there are _tons_ of the waste onsite that have
accumulated over the years? How are we going to contain that for the next
few millenia, not to mention, _warn_ our long distant future children not
to go play in the funny glowing hills? Will they even speak English, or
will they have to attempt decipher our language much like we attempt to
decipher ancient Egyptian today? Will they think instead that the waste
disposal sarcophagi are merely tombs we used to bury our leaders and try to
> Jon> Don't get me wrong, I really want a fuelcell car - I'm tired
> Jon> of the high gas prices! I'd gladly pay a bit more for a car,
> Jon> that has equivalent or better performance than today's cars,
> Jon> and costs virtually nothing to run.
>... Which is why NA has such poor public infrastructure to begin
>with... Cheap fuel -> big vehicles and little incentive to use public
Ah... public transit sucks. Too hot, too cold, too wet, too uncomfortable,
too long to wait, too smelly, too crowded and too dirty.
'Sides, it doesn't exist out here.
>What does this have to do with Linux anyway?
Absolutely nothing. Neither did the original topic, IIRC (something about
sinning if one used Windows...) But, that's okay - someone will eventually
make the reference to WWII and a certain European tribe that tried to take
over the world in true Pinky and the Brain style, which will then kill the
thread by default. :)
Fighting a holy war is like killing each other over who has the better
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