[oclug] Bad News re Loki
bbarnett at l8r.net
Tue Aug 14 12:56:18 EDT 2001
Quoting Dave Edwards <dle1 at sympatico.ca>:
> Hey Gang,
> I just read that Lokigames has filed for bankruptcy. It's unlikey that
Not true, they've filed for restructing and _protection_ from bankrupcy, a
Chapter 7 in the US. Not the same thing.
> they'll pull their fat from the fire, but in any event, it's another
> weight on the other side of the scales for the arguments, *OSS and
> business can't co-exist*, or *OSS advocates/Linux users are cheapskates
> and freeloaders*, i.e., *it really _is_ about ``free beer'' -- they
> pay.''* It also adds to a large problem: the absence of popular apps,
> games in this case.
> It may well be that Lokigames is a poorly run business, and as always,
They certainly started out that way. Of the first 6 or 7 games they did, 5 of
them were virtually unusable until patches came out, and even then some of them
weren't fully usable until about a *year* after the release date. A very, very
poor way to run a company. I remember being unable to finish heavy gearII,
heroesIII, mythII, and civII-CTP because of crashing issues, that even today
aren't fully fixed (re: heroesIII, civ).
They seem to have gotten their act together near the end, and used the user
based to help with debugging. It makes a big difference, that's for sure. SOF
and Rune were much more impressive, in terms of stability.
Keep in mind that usable =! "it runs". Usable is defined by the fact that I can
actually finish the game without it getting to an unpassable point due to
Anyhow, they may recover. I have a feeling that this is more due to lame
investors pulling out. After all, Loki has only been around 3 years or so, I
wouldn't expect them to make any money for the first 5 years in this market.
> it's unjust to extrapolate from the failure of only one organization
> collapses of traditional software companies tend not to percolate to the
> top of the news), but Lokigames is a fairly visible company, and this
> will be taken as another bellwether of the demise of Linux/OSS, as when
> Eazel folded -- remember the ``Linux on the desktop is dead'' meme?
> it comes again. Sigh.
> ``Science fiction and nostalgia have become the same thing.''
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